Is being a deadbeat a sin?

I've heard about many others having this problem, and lately I experienced it a few times too. People who ask for money from you, a presumed "loan", swear by everything they'll pay you back by a certain agreed upon time, then when the time comes, usually don't, or if you remind them, might give you a part payment, then borrow more a little later, an amount that overrides the part payment. There seems to be an epidemic of this going around, like some worldly trend or something. It's like, everyone thinks it's "cool" to borrow, but when it's time to pay all of a sudden they're hard to find. Is this a sin? I would say on a few fronts. First, dishonesty. They shouldn't make an agreement with someone if they have no intention of keeping it. Besides, something you do to hurt another is a sin, and if the person was counting on the money back by a certain date, and they don't have it because the person "stiffed" them, their unreliability affected someone else. Also, it's disrespectful of the other person, they gain their trust enough to do it for them, instead of showing gratefulness and consideration for the favor, they spit on them by not keeping their word, and letting the other person come up short the amount. So I would say, it's a sin, if they really had no intention of paying back, and said they would, it's a lie, and if they changed their mind once they got their hands on the money, it's still dishonesty. Would you say what they're doing is sinful? {It's also robbery, because they took something that wasn't theirs and didn't return it.} {Oh, also, when the agreed date comes, they "hide out", you have to chase after them for it, after they gave their word.}

 

[Brother James]

Speak about skirting the issue, you completely sidestepped the point that others have posted things in a similar way to me, yet you don't react as strongly to them.

At times I send others personal messages through their profiles as I have even done with you as well! You don't know everything I do here because of that!

I didn't sidestep, I said you made that up in your head

 

[Steven Bobb]

At times I send others personal messages through their profiles as I have even done with you as well! You don't know everything I do here because of that!

I didn't sidestep, I said you made that up in your head

No with me it's not always on my personal profile. Sometimes it's as a direct response to a request. {Which I haven't seen in your response to others.} So I can quote what I see.

 

[Brother James]

No with me it's not always on my personal profile. Sometimes it's as a direct response to a request.{Which I haven't seen in your response to others.}So I can quote what I see.

Do you even realize how stubborn you are? Most people aren't stubborn enough to post how they would make a child of Jesus write on a black board a 100 times because they said count it all joy. You I rebuke openly my friend!

 

[Steven Bobb]

Do you even realize how stubborn you are? Most people aren't stubborn enough to post how they would make a child of Jesus write on a black board a 100 times because they said count it all joy. You I rebuke openly my friend!

Your...what? What was that last word you used?

 

[Brother James]

Your...what? What was that last word you used?

What is wrong with you ###? A person who has corrected me I consider them my friends! I have posted things that I got rebuked for but I didn't treat them like a fool, I chose to look deeply at what they said that, yes, set me in a better place with Jesus! Don't you want to be in a better place with Jesus, the ONE that made you?

 

[Steven Bobb]

What is wrong with you ###? A person who has corrected me I consider them my friends! I have posted things that I got rebuked for but I didn't treat them like a fool, I chose to look deeply at what they said that, yes, set me in a better place with Jesus! Don't you want to be in a better place with Jesus, the ONE that made you?

Putting a stamp of approval on someone who swindled someone else I don't think that's what Jesus meant. "Go your way and sin no more".

 

[natasha2]

One thing I do agree with is, I shouldn't let them "rope me in" in the first place. Besides money, in other categories, like I drive people and I've had where someone wants to make a stop when I'm tight for time, so they say if there's a line in the place, they'll come right out and do it at a different time. So what happens? They wait on the line anyway, it "comes out" that they did that. OR they say they won't complain if they have to wait a little for me because of other commitments, then they DO complain. Or I've had people say they'll keep in touch with me, then don't. I think it's the lying that bothers me the most. But you guys are right about one thing, I shouldn't be gullible enough to keep falling for it. However, that doesn't JUSTIFY their actions.

One short advice to remember, TRY NOT TO FOCUS ON OTHER PEOPLE'S SINS AND MISTAKES

One thing I do agree with is, I shouldn't let them "rope me in" in the first place. Besides money, in other categories, like I drive people and I've had where someone wants to make a stop when I'm tight for time, so they say if there's a line in the place, they'll come right out and do it at a different time. So what happens? They wait on the line anyway, it "comes out" that they did that. OR they say they won't complain if they have to wait a little for me because of other commitments, then they DO complain. Or I've had people say they'll keep in touch with me, then don't. I think it's the lying that bothers me the most. But you guys are right about one thing, I shouldn't be gullible enough to keep falling for it. However, that doesn't JUSTIFY their actions.

1) Distance yourself from their actions and don't ponder about their sins, it will rob you of peace
2) Bless them and forgive them
3) Ask for wisdom on how to treat them for good (every situation you stumble upon), you will be wiser every day more...
4) Forgive them and forgive yourself for bad actions
5) Treat them like children that need to be raised up with character and your strong will but also with love and compassion, they do not have the capacity in the moment to treat you in the right way, so you must teach them to respect you, and this is not so much with your words or convincing them or preaching to them, but with your attitude and actions towards them. Imagine you are educating/teaching a child who does not know what he is doing, but he learns what is good or bad to do to you if you don't allow him to do things to you, the same thing is with the dog....Again: not only with words but with actions. Say no, say have a good day, God bless you, I am not able to give you money now, and turn the other way..... Don't think about how they are, are they sinning or not, just do your action of SETTING HEALTHY BOUNDARIES. CHANGE YOURSELF, DON'T TRY TO CHANGE THEM. It is a waste of time and energy and it doesn't work.

 

[Brother James]

Putting a stamp of approval on someone who swindled someone else I don't think that's what Jesus meant."Go your way and sin no more",.

I feel very sad for you ###! You can't just give to someone in need, you would rather put a burden on someone in need? I don't recall putting a stamp of approval on someone who lied to you and I don't recall putting a stamp of approval on anyone who loans to another without rather giving it so please point that out to me....

 

[natasha2]

I feel very sad for you ###! You can't just give to someone in need, you would rather put a burden on someone in need? I don't recall putting a stamp of approval on someone who lied to you and I don't recall putting a stamp of approval on anyone who loans to another without rather giving it so please point that out to me....

Brother ###, I would say, don't try to convince ### with words, he needs a revelation. Start praying for the spirit of wisdom and revelation. When someone doesn't hear it is a spiritual thing. We need to pray for him. He needs help. I see that he is trying his way out, but he simply doesn't see it. He needs a REVELATION. Don't you agree, we cannot put an input into someone's head, it doesn't work that way, it is the same with the salvation. The person needs to SEE it and UNDERSTAND IT in the spirit. Dear Brother ###, please start to pray for the spirit of wisdom and revelation for him. This is the only way, I AM 100 PERCENT SURE. Discussions doesn't help, I have not seen that it had helped him, and you?

I love you Brother ###, you are an awesome prayer warrior, but you also need to change your approach to ###. He just doesn't SEE it. Help him with a prayer, you have a powerful working prayer, amen!!

 

[natasha2]

And thank you again for everything you do on this site that we even don't see. I am thankful for your authority and presence on this site amen!!