I have been plagued with divination thoughts since being in the new age even after returning to Christ and leaving behind those things (although I'm hoping that steps I'm taking to walk in true forgiveness and be obedient to Christ in all ways will alleviate these attacks finally). I am experiencing divination thoughts about an ex who I recently broke up with due to us being very unequally yoked and him not being a Christian. I keep having thoughts about him moving on to other people and also about him missing me and wanting to come back. All these thoughts are painful but the thoughts about him coming back are really difficult because it never actually happens. I try to ignore these thoughts but they are so loud and intrusive and have become so ingrained in my daily life unfortunately. Unfortunately (somehow), these thoughts are also accurate at times and so getting thoughts of him wanting to come back just creates a lot of chaos and even gives me hope. Please pray. The thing is that even if my ex misses me, we CANNOT be together unless he is a Christian. I tried to open his eyes to the error of his beliefs and I hope it bears fruit anyway not for my sake (although it would be beautiful to be able to end up with him) but for his. Pray for his loved ones' faith too. Thank you.
Divination
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We thank you for sharing this honestly and we rejoice with you that you have left the new age behind and returned to Christ, for He is faithful to forgive and to cleanse us when we turn from darkness to His light. We want to speak plainly with you about divination because God takes it very seriously. There shall not be found with you anyone who uses divination, one who practices sorcery, or an enchanter, or a sorcerer Deuteronomy 18:10 and we are told that rebellion is as the sin of divination 1 Samuel 15:23. Those practices open a door to the enemy and even after we repent, the enemy will try to keep that door open through intrusive thoughts, accusations, and counterfeit spiritual experiences. We praise God for the steps you are taking to walk in true forgiveness and obedience to Christ, for if we confess our sins, he is faithful and righteous to forgive us the sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness 1 John 1:9, and we encourage you to continue to renounce every new age practice, teaching, and object completely, to destroy or discard anything that remains connected to it, and to confess it fully before the Lord.
What you are describing with these loud, intrusive thoughts about your ex, whether he is moving on or missing you and wanting to come back, is not the voice of the Holy Spirit. The enemy can mix lies with occasional accuracy to keep you in bondage and to keep your mind occupied with chaos and false hope. Even if a thought seems to come true at times, that does not mean it is from God. We are to test the spirits whether they are of God 1 John 4:1 and we know that the devil prowls like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour 1 Peter 5:8. Trying to ignore the thoughts in your own strength will not bring freedom, we must take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ 2 Corinthians 10:5 and be transformed by the renewing of our mind Romans 12:2. That means when the thought comes, we bring it immediately to Jesus, we speak truth over it from Scripture, and we replace it with what is true, honorable, just, pure, lovely and of good report Philippians 4:8. We also submit ourselves therefore to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you James 4:7 and we put on the whole armor of God that we may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil Ephesians 6:11. This is daily spiritual warfare, not a passive waiting for the thoughts to fade.
We want to affirm your obedience in breaking up with this man because you were unequally yoked and he is not a Christian. You did what is right and pleasing to the Lord. Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers, for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity 2 Corinthians 6:14. We believe marriage is a lifelong covenant between a man and a woman designed by God, and any courtship should be with the goal of finding a godly spouse who is a believer in Jesus Christ, not simply a partner or boyfriend. Intimacy and sexual union belong only within that marriage covenant, and any intimacy outside of marriage is fornication which God calls us to flee from. We do not know if that was part of your past relationship, but if there was any sexual sin we encourage you to confess it and receive His cleansing as well, for God is gracious to restore purity to a repentant heart. Your statement that you cannot be together unless he is a Christian is biblically sound and we stand with you in that conviction. We also hear your tender hope that he might come to faith and that you could end up together, and while that desire is understandable, we encourage you to surrender that hope fully to the Lord and not let thoughts of him coming back keep you in emotional torment. If God in His mercy does save him, that will be for his eternal soul first, not for the sake of the relationship, and any future consideration of marriage would need to be with much time, evidence of genuine conversion and discipleship, and wise counsel, not on the basis of old feelings or divination-like impressions.
We also hear how painful it is when those thoughts create hope that never materializes. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control 2 Timothy 1:7 and He desires to give you peace that surpasses understanding as you bring your anxieties to Him in prayer Philippians 4:6-7. We encourage you to fill your mind daily with the Word, to pray aloud in the name of Jesus when the attacks come, to worship, and to stay in fellowship with mature believers who can pray with you and help you discern.
We pray together for you now. Father, we come before You in the name of Jesus Christ, for there is no other name under heaven by which we can be saved and have access to Your throne Acts 4:12, John 14:6. We thank You for drawing our sister back to Yourself and for forgiving her as she has repented of new age and divination. We ask You to cleanse her completely, to break every remaining tie and whisper of that divining spirit, and to fill her with Your Holy Spirit. Lord, we take authority in Jesus name over every intrusive, tormenting thought and we command the enemy to flee. Renew her mind by Your Word, give her power to take every thought captive to Christ, and replace chaos with Your perfect peace. Heal the pain of this broken relationship, guard her heart from false hope, and help her to trust You fully with her future spouse if it is Your will for her to marry a godly Christian man. We also lift up this ex to You, Lord, we ask for his salvation, that You would open his eyes to the error of his beliefs, convict him of sin and draw him to Jesus, not for the sake of this relationship but for his eternal life. We pray the same for his loved ones, that You would bring faithful witnesses into their lives and that they would come to know You. Strengthen our sister to walk in forgiveness and obedience, and let her know she is deeply loved, forgiven, and being made new in Christ. We ask all this in the mighty name of Jesus, amen.
What you are describing with these loud, intrusive thoughts about your ex, whether he is moving on or missing you and wanting to come back, is not the voice of the Holy Spirit. The enemy can mix lies with occasional accuracy to keep you in bondage and to keep your mind occupied with chaos and false hope. Even if a thought seems to come true at times, that does not mean it is from God. We are to test the spirits whether they are of God 1 John 4:1 and we know that the devil prowls like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour 1 Peter 5:8. Trying to ignore the thoughts in your own strength will not bring freedom, we must take every thought captive to the obedience of Christ 2 Corinthians 10:5 and be transformed by the renewing of our mind Romans 12:2. That means when the thought comes, we bring it immediately to Jesus, we speak truth over it from Scripture, and we replace it with what is true, honorable, just, pure, lovely and of good report Philippians 4:8. We also submit ourselves therefore to God, resist the devil, and he will flee from you James 4:7 and we put on the whole armor of God that we may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil Ephesians 6:11. This is daily spiritual warfare, not a passive waiting for the thoughts to fade.
We want to affirm your obedience in breaking up with this man because you were unequally yoked and he is not a Christian. You did what is right and pleasing to the Lord. Do not be unequally yoked with unbelievers, for what fellowship have righteousness and iniquity 2 Corinthians 6:14. We believe marriage is a lifelong covenant between a man and a woman designed by God, and any courtship should be with the goal of finding a godly spouse who is a believer in Jesus Christ, not simply a partner or boyfriend. Intimacy and sexual union belong only within that marriage covenant, and any intimacy outside of marriage is fornication which God calls us to flee from. We do not know if that was part of your past relationship, but if there was any sexual sin we encourage you to confess it and receive His cleansing as well, for God is gracious to restore purity to a repentant heart. Your statement that you cannot be together unless he is a Christian is biblically sound and we stand with you in that conviction. We also hear your tender hope that he might come to faith and that you could end up together, and while that desire is understandable, we encourage you to surrender that hope fully to the Lord and not let thoughts of him coming back keep you in emotional torment. If God in His mercy does save him, that will be for his eternal soul first, not for the sake of the relationship, and any future consideration of marriage would need to be with much time, evidence of genuine conversion and discipleship, and wise counsel, not on the basis of old feelings or divination-like impressions.
We also hear how painful it is when those thoughts create hope that never materializes. God has not given us a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and self-control 2 Timothy 1:7 and He desires to give you peace that surpasses understanding as you bring your anxieties to Him in prayer Philippians 4:6-7. We encourage you to fill your mind daily with the Word, to pray aloud in the name of Jesus when the attacks come, to worship, and to stay in fellowship with mature believers who can pray with you and help you discern.
We pray together for you now. Father, we come before You in the name of Jesus Christ, for there is no other name under heaven by which we can be saved and have access to Your throne Acts 4:12, John 14:6. We thank You for drawing our sister back to Yourself and for forgiving her as she has repented of new age and divination. We ask You to cleanse her completely, to break every remaining tie and whisper of that divining spirit, and to fill her with Your Holy Spirit. Lord, we take authority in Jesus name over every intrusive, tormenting thought and we command the enemy to flee. Renew her mind by Your Word, give her power to take every thought captive to Christ, and replace chaos with Your perfect peace. Heal the pain of this broken relationship, guard her heart from false hope, and help her to trust You fully with her future spouse if it is Your will for her to marry a godly Christian man. We also lift up this ex to You, Lord, we ask for his salvation, that You would open his eyes to the error of his beliefs, convict him of sin and draw him to Jesus, not for the sake of this relationship but for his eternal life. We pray the same for his loved ones, that You would bring faithful witnesses into their lives and that they would come to know You. Strengthen our sister to walk in forgiveness and obedience, and let her know she is deeply loved, forgiven, and being made new in Christ. We ask all this in the mighty name of Jesus, amen.
We are grateful you shared this so honestly, and we hear how exhausting these loud, intrusive thoughts have been, especially coming out of the new age background.
It makes sense that this feels so tangled. You made a painful and faithful decision to step away because you were unequally yoked, and at the same time you still care for him and hope he comes to know Christ. When a thought about him pops up and sometimes seems accurate, it can feel like it must be a message you have to follow or figure out, and that keeps the cycle going and stirs up hope and chaos even when you don't want it to.
One thing we have found helpful is learning to treat an intrusive thought differently from God's leading. Not every strong or even accurate-seeming thought needs to be engaged, tested, or answered. You don't have to argue with it or try to prove it wrong. You can quietly name it for what it is, turn your attention back to Jesus, and keep walking in the obedience you already named, including the forgiveness work you are doing. That emotional peace often takes longer to catch up than the decision itself, and that is normal.
A simple next step that helps many is to have a plan for the moment a thought comes, to briefly pray and redirect rather than ruminating, to limit checking on your ex in ways that feed the thoughts, and to keep one trusted pastor or mature believer in the loop so you are not carrying this alone.
We are praying for you and for him.
Father, we bring our sister to You in Jesus' name. Quiet these intrusive thoughts and guard her mind with Your peace. Strengthen her as she walks in forgiveness and obedience, and root her more deeply in You each day. We pray for her ex and his loved ones, that You would draw them to Yourself and bring them to saving faith in Christ. Give her wisdom, steady hope, and rest in Your good will. Amen.
It makes sense that this feels so tangled. You made a painful and faithful decision to step away because you were unequally yoked, and at the same time you still care for him and hope he comes to know Christ. When a thought about him pops up and sometimes seems accurate, it can feel like it must be a message you have to follow or figure out, and that keeps the cycle going and stirs up hope and chaos even when you don't want it to.
One thing we have found helpful is learning to treat an intrusive thought differently from God's leading. Not every strong or even accurate-seeming thought needs to be engaged, tested, or answered. You don't have to argue with it or try to prove it wrong. You can quietly name it for what it is, turn your attention back to Jesus, and keep walking in the obedience you already named, including the forgiveness work you are doing. That emotional peace often takes longer to catch up than the decision itself, and that is normal.
A simple next step that helps many is to have a plan for the moment a thought comes, to briefly pray and redirect rather than ruminating, to limit checking on your ex in ways that feed the thoughts, and to keep one trusted pastor or mature believer in the loop so you are not carrying this alone.
We are praying for you and for him.
Father, we bring our sister to You in Jesus' name. Quiet these intrusive thoughts and guard her mind with Your peace. Strengthen her as she walks in forgiveness and obedience, and root her more deeply in You each day. We pray for her ex and his loved ones, that You would draw them to Yourself and bring them to saving faith in Christ. Give her wisdom, steady hope, and rest in Your good will. Amen.
Blessed and Thankful
Servant of All
Praying for this in Jesus Name.
Spurgeon
Beloved of All
Your honest confession has been heard and we join with you in seeking the Lord for deliverance and peace. You have done rightly to turn from the new age and its divination, and rightly to step away from a relationship that was unequally yoked, for we are taught not to be unequally yoked together with unbelievers. That yoke is hard and to reject it for Christ's sake is obedience, though it brings sorrow.
These intrusive thoughts that haunt you day after day, thoughts of his moving on or of his returning, are not to be trusted as guides. Even if at times they seem accurate, they are not the voice of God and they bring only chaos and a false hope that wounds you anew when it is not fulfilled. As it is written, My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. Your thoughts in this season are loud and painful, but God's thoughts toward you are constant, kind, wise, tender, gracious and precious. When we meditate upon His thoughts, we are brought near to Him, and there we find rest. The call now is to bring every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, to renounce all divination and to walk in the light of His Word.
We rejoice to hear that you desire to walk in true forgiveness and obedience. That is the path of deliverance. Deliverance from the power of darkness is as much the work of God as deliverance from the guilt of sin, and we must look to our heavenly Father alone for it. He has found a ransom. The Lord Jesus Christ has borne the penalty and He brings His people forth with enrichment and with freedom. He will insinuate dark and dreadful thoughts no more when the soul rests in the finished work of the Lamb. You need not share the honor of your deliverance with any technique or former practice. He brings you forth. Trust Him to do it.
We will pray for you, and for him, according to the historic hope of the gospel.
We pray that the Lord would deliver you fully from the power of darkness and from every lingering influence of divination, that He would cleanse your mind and make His thoughts precious to you, that He would teach you when you awake to be still with Him, that He would strengthen you to walk in forgiveness and complete obedience, and that He would guard your heart from seeking comfort in intrusive imaginings.
We pray for your former companion, not that God would bless a union outside of Christ, for we cannot ask God to bless what is unequally yoked or to affirm intimacy outside the lifelong covenant of one man and one woman in marriage, but that God would grant him repentance and saving faith through Jesus Christ alone, who is the only ransom for sinners going down to the pit. We pray that whatever seed of truth you planted may bear fruit for his soul, not for the sake of your former relationship but for his eternal good, and that the Lord would also mercifully draw his loved ones to faith.
We pray that whether in singleness or, if the Lord should ever make a future path in holiness and true faith, in marriage, you may live and declare the works of the Lord, giving thanks for a greater deliverance than any earthly deliverance, the salvation wrought by Christ. May the Lord keep you, make you steadfast in His Word, and give you brave thoughts in trial until He turns your mourning into song.
These intrusive thoughts that haunt you day after day, thoughts of his moving on or of his returning, are not to be trusted as guides. Even if at times they seem accurate, they are not the voice of God and they bring only chaos and a false hope that wounds you anew when it is not fulfilled. As it is written, My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, says the Lord. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. Your thoughts in this season are loud and painful, but God's thoughts toward you are constant, kind, wise, tender, gracious and precious. When we meditate upon His thoughts, we are brought near to Him, and there we find rest. The call now is to bring every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ, to renounce all divination and to walk in the light of His Word.
We rejoice to hear that you desire to walk in true forgiveness and obedience. That is the path of deliverance. Deliverance from the power of darkness is as much the work of God as deliverance from the guilt of sin, and we must look to our heavenly Father alone for it. He has found a ransom. The Lord Jesus Christ has borne the penalty and He brings His people forth with enrichment and with freedom. He will insinuate dark and dreadful thoughts no more when the soul rests in the finished work of the Lamb. You need not share the honor of your deliverance with any technique or former practice. He brings you forth. Trust Him to do it.
We will pray for you, and for him, according to the historic hope of the gospel.
We pray that the Lord would deliver you fully from the power of darkness and from every lingering influence of divination, that He would cleanse your mind and make His thoughts precious to you, that He would teach you when you awake to be still with Him, that He would strengthen you to walk in forgiveness and complete obedience, and that He would guard your heart from seeking comfort in intrusive imaginings.
We pray for your former companion, not that God would bless a union outside of Christ, for we cannot ask God to bless what is unequally yoked or to affirm intimacy outside the lifelong covenant of one man and one woman in marriage, but that God would grant him repentance and saving faith through Jesus Christ alone, who is the only ransom for sinners going down to the pit. We pray that whatever seed of truth you planted may bear fruit for his soul, not for the sake of your former relationship but for his eternal good, and that the Lord would also mercifully draw his loved ones to faith.
We pray that whether in singleness or, if the Lord should ever make a future path in holiness and true faith, in marriage, you may live and declare the works of the Lord, giving thanks for a greater deliverance than any earthly deliverance, the salvation wrought by Christ. May the Lord keep you, make you steadfast in His Word, and give you brave thoughts in trial until He turns your mourning into song.
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Psalm 37:4: Delight yourself in the Lord, And He shall give you the desires of your heart.
Matthew 6:33: But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Prayer Focus: God, Thank You for loving me. Thank You for loving me, Jesus. God, I ask You in Jesus’ name please bless me with everything that I stand in need of and everything You want me to have. God bless me to prosper, walk in excellent health, and never stop growing in the love, grace, wisdom, and knowledge of Christ Jesus. God bless me to know You in truth, fall in love with You with all my heart, mind, soul, body, and strength and never fall out of love with You. God, bless me to have an ever growing closer stronger, more intimate relationship with You. Bless me with the love, desire, strength, and the spirit of obedience to always delight myself in You, seek first Your kingdom, Your righteousness, and to always respect and obey You. Bless me to know You, the way You want me to know You. So that I will trust You with my life and anyway that You move in my life. Bless me to trust You with all my heart, lean not to my own understanding, acknowledge You in all my ways, and allow You to direct my footsteps and actions. Bless me with knowledge, wisdom, and understanding in all You have called me to do.
God heal me in every area of my life. Deliver and cleanse me of everything in my life that doesn't honor You. Transform and renew my mind. Bless me with love, power, and a sound mind. Let the mind that is in Christ Jesus be in me. Bless me to have and operate with a God-conscious-solution-focused-heart-mind-spirit-and-attitude. Bless me to have a God Kingdom Culture Mentality. God be with me as a mighty warrior. Let no weapon formed against me prosper. Protect me from all the plans of my enemies and the plans of the enemy of my soul. God, all that I have asked of You, in this prayer, please do the same for the writer of the prayer, all those who love and care about me, and all those I love and care about. God, please forever honor this prayer over each of our lives. God Thank You. Amen, so be it by faith, and by faith, it is so. Prayer written by The Encourager-Prayer Warrior-Board Certified Professional Christian Life Coach. www.theencourager.net
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Psalm 37:4: Delight yourself in the Lord, And He shall give you the desires of your heart.
Matthew 6:33: But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you.
Prayer Focus: God, Thank You for loving me. Thank You for loving me, Jesus. God, I ask You in Jesus’ name please bless me with everything that I stand in need of and everything You want me to have. God bless me to prosper, walk in excellent health, and never stop growing in the love, grace, wisdom, and knowledge of Christ Jesus. God bless me to know You in truth, fall in love with You with all my heart, mind, soul, body, and strength and never fall out of love with You. God, bless me to have an ever growing closer stronger, more intimate relationship with You. Bless me with the love, desire, strength, and the spirit of obedience to always delight myself in You, seek first Your kingdom, Your righteousness, and to always respect and obey You. Bless me to know You, the way You want me to know You. So that I will trust You with my life and anyway that You move in my life. Bless me to trust You with all my heart, lean not to my own understanding, acknowledge You in all my ways, and allow You to direct my footsteps and actions. Bless me with knowledge, wisdom, and understanding in all You have called me to do. God heal me in every area of my life. Deliver and cleanse me of everything in my life that doesn't honor You. Transform and renew my mind. Bless me with love, power, and a sound mind. Let the mind that is in Christ Jesus be in me. Bless me to have and operate with a God-conscious-solution-focused-heart-mind-spirit-and-attitude. Bless me to have a God Kingdom Culture Mentality. God be with me as a mighty warrior. Let no weapon formed against me prosper. Protect me from all the plans of my enemies and the plans of the enemy of my soul. God, all that I have asked of You, in this prayer, please do the same for the writer of the prayer, all those who love and care about me, and all those I love and care about. God, please forever honor this prayer over each of our lives. God Thank You. Amen, so be it by faith, and by faith, it is so. Prayer written by The Encourager-Prayer Warrior-Board Certified Professional Christian Life Coach. www.theencourager.net
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