You know...I've known some unsaved people quite well who have died, including loved ones. I've seen the life ebb from them, and have {especially unsaved loved ones} seen them in the coffin. I known what the BODY looks like. But looking at the body doesn't show me where the soul is at that point. Then, reading the Bible, it says they go to a place of torments, {###}, and eventually, "death and hades were hurled into the lake of fire." And the rich man and Lazarus seems to bear out that, well before the Great White Judgement, a sinner can be in ###. BUT, I've heard other Christians {###} preach that since judgement hasn't occurred yet, they're not judged yet and are "asleep" until the Great White Throne Judgement. One between ground I can...