What is really prophesying - simple and interesting explanation

 

[Intercessor]

"For the Testimony of Jesus is The Spirit of Prophecy" (Rev 19:10).

"To prophesy is to understand and proclaim the truth concerning God, especially in the face of prevalent ignorance or opposition; this is also what is meant by holding 'the testimony of Jesus.' The angel in revealing these visions, the martyrs in openly professing Christ unto death, John in receiving and handing on the Apocalypse, were prophesying. Thus it was that the angel announces himself as a fellow servant of John, a fellow servant with the prophets, and with those "who keep the sayings of this book" (Rev 22:9). Pulpit Commentary

Yes, Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers are given to build up the body until we attain complete unity and maturity that rivals the stature of Jesus Himself (Eph 4:11-2), and we have not arrived, so unless I don’t believe Scripture, which I obviously do, the prophetic will be here until Christ returns.

Yes I believe in the gifts of the word of knowledge, word of wisdom, healing, tongues, interpretation, all that’s in the Bible, and it is also prophesying to announce to a crowd the mystery that Gentiles are now able to be joined to Jesus the Vine and become fellow heirs of life with the Jewish people theough theSuffering Servant — The Messiahs— who was the fulfilment of all the sacrifices (which sacrifices were actually prophesying Jesus would be the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the World (John Baptiste, (The 4 Gospels).

There is really no difference, Natasha... You can use Scripture for one on one messages, messages to a church, a group of people, town hall, state or national legislative offices, anyone privately and publically. The Bible provides ample encouragement to exhort one another daily (Hebrews), to rescue someone going astray (Galatians and James), that iron sharpens iron (Proverbs) and that all Scripture is inspired by God already, and is useful for teaching, correction, encouragement and training in righteousness (2 Tim 3:16), we have the prophetic Word made more sure, which we do well to pay attention to, as we would a lamp in the time of complete darkness, 2 Peter, and most prophetic people encourage people to give the Holy Spirit language in your mind (wise people store up knowledge, Proverbs), so that we “will be able to sustain the weary one with a Word (Isaiah). “For like apples of Gold in Aetrings of Silver, so is the right word spoken at the right time. It just so happens that the people who have impacted the world the most for the Kingdom of God have not only prayed and been sensitive to the Holy Spirit, but were avid students (Moses, Jesus, Paul, The Early Church Fathers, Augustine, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, Whitefield, etc). “Study to show yourself approved as a worker that need not be ashamed, accurately dividing the Word of Truth (2 Tim 2:15) is not a suggestion, but an order from the Holy Spirit. So yes, prophesy by all means (1 Cor 14 the whole Chapter), but there is no better way to deliver the burden than by having Scripture in Your mind memorized so that the prophecy may ride as in a Royal Chariot on The Golden Avenue of Scripture.

 

[natasha2]

Yes, Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors and Teachers are given to build up the body until we attain complete unity and maturity that rivals the stature of Jesus Himself (Eph 4:11-2), and we have not arrived, so unless I don’t believe Scripture, which I obviously do, the prophetic will be here until Christ returns.

Yes I believe in the gifts of the word of knowledge, word of wisdom, healing, tongues, interpretation, all that’s in the Bible, and it is also prophesying to announce to a crowd the mystery that Gentiles are now able to be joined to Jesus the Vine and become fellow heirs of life with the Jewish people theough theSuffering Servant — The Messiahs— who was the fulfilment of all the sacrifices (which sacrifices were actually prophesying Jesus would be the Lamb of God which takes away the sin of the World (John Baptiste, (The 4 Gospels).

There is really no difference, Natasha... You can use Scripture for one on one messages, messages to a church, a group of people, town hall, state or national legislative offices, anyone privately and publically. The Bible provides ample encouragement to exhort one another daily (Hebrews), to rescue someone going astray (Galatians and James), that iron sharpens iron (Proverbs) and that all Scripture is inspired by God already, and is useful for teaching, correction, encouragement and training in righteousness (2 Tim 3:16), we have the prophetic Word made more sure, which we do well to pay attention to, as we would a lamp in the time of complete darkness, 2 Peter, and most prophetic people encourage people to give the Holy Spirit language in your mind (wise people store up knowledge, Proverbs), so that we “will be able to sustain the weary one with a Word (Isaiah). “For like apples of Gold in Aetrings of Silver, so is the right word spoken at the right time. It just so happens that the people who have impacted the world the most for the Kingdom of God have not only prayed and been sensitive to the Holy Spirit, but were avid students (Moses, Jesus, Paul, The Early Church Fathers, Augustine, Luther, Calvin, Knox, Whitefield, Jonathan Edwards, Whitefield, etc). “Study to show yourself approved as a worker that need not be ashamed, accurately dividing the Word of Truth (2 Tim 2:15) is not a suggestion, but an order from the Holy Spirit. So yes, prophesy by all means (1 Cor 14 the whole Chapter), but there is no better way to deliver the burden than by having Scripture in Your mind memorized so that the prophecy may ride as in a Royal Chariot on The Golden Avenue of Scripture.

You are surely gifted in speech. And yes agree with you concerning knowledge as the word sais THE WORD IN ALL KNOWLEDGE AND SPIRUTUAL.UNDERSTANDING. So again knowing scriptures without the Holy spirit , faith and power is like when you try to play music on a wood (and you can do only the rhythm). I hope we agree with it. Some are very good scribes and know Bible very well but I feel only pressure of them which is not the Holy spirit but some other spirit or there is no power in the scripture that they qoute over and over like Jesus is coming soon...etc...I hope you understand what I mean. A real prophecy comes like a living water from our bellies and has the power to change lives. Off course that you must know the Bible but you must not know it letter by letter to tell the point what God wanted to say. I agree with you and I would like to go to some Bible study group but what is inside of us is a volcano of God's power if we only know how to activate it! Do you speak in tongues?

 

[Intercessor]

You are surely gifted in speech. And yes agree with you concerning knowledge as the word sais THE WORD IN ALL KNOWLEDGE AND SPIRITUAL.UNDERSTANDING. So again knowing scriptures without the Holy spirit , faith and power is like when you try to play music on a wood (and you can do only the rhythm). I hope we agree with it. Some are very good scribes and know Bible very well but I feel only pressure of them which is not the Holy spirit but some other spirit or there is no power in the scripture that they qoute over and over like Jesus is coming soon...etc...I hope you understand what I mean. A real prophecy comes like a living water from our bellies and has the power to change lives. Off course that you must know the Bible but you must not know it letter by letter to tell the point what God wanted to say. I agree with you and I would like to go to some Bible study group but what is inside of us is a volcano of God's power if we only know how to activate it! Do you speak in tongues?

1 Corinthians 14
1Pursue love, yet desire earnestly spiritual gifts, but especially that you may prophesy. 2For one who speaks in a tongue does not speak to men but to God; for no one understands, but in his spirit he speaks mysteries. 3But one who prophesies speaks to men for edification and exhortation and consolation. 4One who speaks in a tongue edifies himself; but one who prophesies edifies the church. 5Now I wish that you all spoke in tongues, but even more that you would prophesy; and greater is one who prophesies than one who speaks in tongues, unless he interprets, so that the church may receive edifying.
6But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking in tongues, what will I profit you unless I speak to you either by way of revelation or of knowledge or of prophecy or of teaching? 7Yet even lifeless things, either flute or harp, in producing a sound, if they do not produce a distinction in the tones, how will it be known what is played on the flute or on the harp? 8For if the bugle produces an indistinct sound, who will prepare himself for battle? 9So also you, unless you utter by the tongue speech that is clear, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. 10There are, perhaps, a great many kinds of languages in the world, and no kind is without meaning. 11If then I do not know the meaning of the language, I will be to the one who speaks a barbarian, and the one who speaks will be a barbarian to me. 12So also you, since you are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek to abound for the edification of the church.
13Therefore let one who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. 14For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind is unfruitful. 15What is the outcome then? I will pray with the spirit and I will pray with the mind also; I will sing with the spirit and I will sing with the mind also. 16Otherwise if you bless in the spirit only, how will the one who fills the place of the ungifted say the “Amen” at your giving of thanks, since he does not know what you are saying? 17For you are giving thanks well enough, but the other person is not edified. 18I thank God, I speak in tongues more than you all; 19however, in the church I desire to speak five words with my mind so that I may instruct others also, rather than ten thousand words in a tongue.
20Brethren, do not be children in your thinking; yet in evil be infants, but in your thinking be mature. 21In the Law it is written, “BY MEN OF STRANGE TONGUES AND BY THE LIPS OF STRANGERS I WILL SPEAK TO THIS PEOPLE, AND EVEN SO THEY WILL NOT LISTEN TO ME,” says the Lord. 22So then tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophecy is for a sign, not to unbelievers but to those who believe. 23Therefore if the whole church assembles together and all speak in tongues, and ungifted men or unbelievers enter, will they not say that you are mad? 24But if all prophesy, and an unbeliever or an ungifted man enters, he is convicted by all, he is called to account by all; 25the secrets of his heart are disclosed; and so he will fall on his face and worship God, declaring that God is certainly among you.
26What is the outcome then, brethren? When you assemble, each one has a psalm, has a teaching, has a revelation, has a tongue, has an interpretation. Let all things be done for edification. 27If anyone speaks in a tongue, it should be by two or at the most three, and each in turn, and one must interpret; 28but if there is no interpreter, he must keep silent in the church; and let him speak to himself and to God. 29Let two or three prophets speak, and let the others pass judgment. 30But if a revelation is made to another who is seated, the first one must keep silent. 31For you can all prophesy one by one, so that all may learn and all may be exhorted; 32and the spirits of prophets are subject to prophets; 33for God is not a God of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints....
37If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, let him recognize that the things which I write to you are the Lord’s commandment. 38But if anyone does not recognize this, he is not recognized.
39Therefore, my brethren, desire earnestly to prophesy, and do not forbid to speak in tongues. 40But all things must be done properly and in an orderly manner.