What causes fascination with the occult?

Ok, we know the deal with the occult.Demon spirits mislead people into thinking they're "helpful", like a deceased loved one . A "familiar spirit" the Bible calls it.because so many of my own relatives,and others I've heard,have had a spouse die , when something breaks for them, instead of giving God the glory, right away they say, "I KNOW{Meaning, they believe because it makes them feel better}the {fill in dead persons name}was helping me. Let there be an electrical short, the lights flicker on and off, and here it comes--"he{the husband was "visiting" me}so pagan. So blasphemous.So niave to the devils lies.I deal with this more than a lot of others, because my mother, for years and right up to this day, is absolutely obsessed with these things, and gets all excited when even hearing about it.Of course, my sister, having grown up hearing this, blindly followed. Now i'm not talking about believing in it per se, but those who are really fascinated ,and obsessed I'm trying to figure out the psychology behind it.Because even before I became saved, it never really was so turned on by it.And there are unsaved people who don't believe in it,although as time goes on it seems more unsaved people do.So wisdom, those who are obsessed by it,what is the motivation behind it?A spiritual sickness?Because maybe if I understood better, I'd know what I'm dealing with.And how to deal with it.
 
And the question to end all questions...…"There's an exception to everything". Many times I've seen so much of one side of something that I doubt the other side exists. But, to be honest,in rare instances, I DO see an exception. But there's one thing I'm doubtful about,...since you disagree with EVERYTHING I say,question--let's say I post something you agree with,or even change my thinking to what you say--listen closely, would you ADMIT YOU AGREE WITH ME,OR WOULD YOU LET YOUR PERSONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS ME GET IN THE WAY<AND YOU WOULD DISAGREE WITH ME JUST BECAUSE OF YOUR OWN FEELINGS TOWARDS ME? Can you be neutral when it comes to me?If you thought I was right, could you bring yourself to admit it? That's the question YOU should look at.And only you know the answer to that, Mr.Happy Go Lucky.

Lol, you don't really pay attention to everything I post do you Steven? I have agreed to some of your posts, haven't I Steven? How is it that you perceive of me as Happy or Happy go lucky? I'm not a Happy person Steven but I am a joyful person and I am not lucky but I am blessed, do you understand that there is a difference? Again I will state why do you think when your thinking is at enmity against God/Jesus? Or if your thinking is wrong why do you bother to think? The only way to really understand someone else is to listen to what they have to say and then take what they say to heart isn't it?

By the way, I really have no feelings towards you other than love Steven. Everything you post and everything you question really has to do with your beliefs in God/Jesus doesn't it? If you have no reason to fully believe in Him than you have no reason to fully follow Him, do you? If he says to count it all as joy and you think that means you have to be happy or count it all as happy then you can't do that, can you?
 
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Lol, you don't really pay attention to everything I post do you Steven? I have agreed to some of your posts, haven't I Steven? How is it that you perceive of me as Happy or Happy go lucky? I'm not a Happy person Steven but I am a joyful person and I am not lucky but I am blessed, do you understand that there is a difference? Again I will state why do you think when your thinking is at enmity against God/Jesus? Or if your thinking is wrong why do you bother to think? The only way to really understand someone else is to listen to what they have to say and then take what they say to heart isn't it?

By the way, I really have no feelings towards you other than love Steven. Everything you post and everything you question really has to do with your beliefs in God/Jesus doesn't it? If you have no reason to fully believe in Him than you have no reason to fully follow Him, do you? If he says to count it all as joy and you think that means you have to be happy or count it all as happy then you can't do that, can you?
In your case I think that you were ALWAYS Happy, that's why it was easy to "cross over".{You're happy until I come on the site, then your whole attitude changes}Oh, are you wearing your "Steven Bobb is a false Christian" shirt today?
 
In your case I think that you were ALWAYS Happy, that's why it was easy to "cross over".{You're happy until I come on the site, then your whole attitude changes}Oh, are you wearing your "Steven Bobb is a false Christian" shirt today?

I don't think you are false, however I do think you are ignorant especially if you think that happiness and being joyful are the same. I don't have any problem with you calling me Mr Joyful Go Blessed of Jesus :)

Luck is much different than blessed Steven. I really don't think that you understand your own language Steven but that's ok, I will still love you :)
 
I don't think you are false, however I do think you are ignorant especially if you think that happiness and being joyful are the same. I don't have any problem with you calling me Mr Joyful Go Blessed of Jesus :)

Luck is much different than blessed Steven. I really don't think that you understand your own language Steven but that's ok, I will still love you :)
Happy go lucky is a saying, looking it up,it doesn't literally mean luck as in chance. Check it out for yourself.It just means a carefree attitude,always cheerful.But not differentiating between experiences , like if you were a painter and the scaffold broke on the 90th floor, and you were dangling upside down by one leg,to tell me I'm supposed to be in a celebratory mood about that,and not see the difference between that and sitting on the beach in Tahiti....It's called preferences.
 
Happy go lucky is a saying, looking it up,it doesn't literally mean luck as in chance. Check it out for yourself.It just means a carefree attitude,always cheerful.But not differentiating between experiences , like if you were a painter and the scaffold broke on the 90th floor, and you were dangling upside down by one leg,to tell me I'm supposed to be in a celebratory mood about that,and not see the difference between that and sitting on the beach in Tahiti....It's called preferences.

Lucky is more of a saying for the devil, where blessed is more related to God/Jesus. I'm not lucky but I am blessed Steven. I can be joyful yet not happy at the same time Steven. There is a difference. Happy go lucky is more related to the father of lies Steven. As far as hanging upside down goes I could very much still be blessed and I could still count that experience as joy without being a masochist or being happy about it couldn't I? There is a difference :)
 
Lucky is more of a saying for the devil, where blessed is more related to God/Jesus. I'm not lucky but I am blessed Steven. I can be joyful yet not happy at the same time Steven. There is a difference. Happy go lucky is more related to the father of lies Steven. As far as hanging upside down goes I could very much still be blessed and I could still count that experience as joy without being a masochist or being happy about it couldn't I? There is a difference :)
Well I differentiate between experiences.Dangling by one foot 90 stories up compared to sitting on the beach in Tahiti, I can't have exactly the same feelings about both.
 
Well I differentiate between experiences.Dangling by one foot 90 stories up compared to sitting on the beach in Tahiti, I can't have exactly the same feelings about both.

They can both be counted as joy Steven. There is a difference only in how you perceive the experiences but you can still count something as joy without being happy about it.
 
They can both be counted as joy Steven. There is a difference only in how you perceive the experiences but you can still count something as joy without being happy about it.
So you have no preferences?You would be just as overjoyed if the mechanic told you you need to rebuild the engine for $4000 as if he told you you just needed an oil change for $50?
 
So you have no preferences?You would be just as overjoyed if the mechanic told you you need to rebuild the engine for $4000 as if he told you you just needed an oil change for $50?

Bottom line is that you can count something as joy and still not be happy about it Steven. The words have different meanings, different understandings Steven. It's a real shame that you would rather have word play than learn how to save your mom and your sister Steven. Did you actually read everything I posted or did you only read what you wanted so that you could have word play?
 
Dealing with devils and demons from hell will make peoples lives so miserable, unstable, full of fear and hatred toward others. Jesus cast out demons of a lot of people and He wanted all of them full of peace, joy and happiness in their life. So, stop reading horoscopes. doing yoga, there is no Christian Yoga at all, devils from hell will come to you and give nightmares at night. Stop watching porn and violent movies where satan wants you involved and then guilty feeling shall fill your heart. Fast and pray daily to be delivered from devils from hell.
 

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