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If you are married, which you are and remain so in Gods eyes even after humans divorce, then you are to submit sexually to one another. God states that man and wife are to submit to one another at all times, unless by mutual consent they agree to separate sexually for the sole purpose of fasting and prayer. He commands this as He states, to keep the marriage bed pure in that both can then resist temptation. So God is telling us that if we neglect one another in this area, we are opening a door to demonic temptation to adultery, so to keep that door shut, we must submit. God also said clearly that the wife’s body does not belong to her, but to the husband. The husbands body does not belong to him, but to the wife.
I realize that you are looking at this as she has wrong motives and that gives you unease with it. It does many standers, especially ones whose spouses are in known adultery with another and still returning to the standing spouse as well. I myself have been in that position. But, I too had to submit, because regardless of what anyone else thinks, including myself, I have to follow the commands of God.
There was also times when my spouse was out and was not engaging in adultery, and he was coming to me for this need for the same reasons your spouse is coming at you...it was not about love. In fact a couple of times he was out and doing this, he was fully demon possessed and it was hard for me because I felt like I was sleeping with the devil. I was not comfortable with it, but God spoke to me clearly that I needed to submit as His word states, as He was allowing this to keep further demons from coming in, demon spirits of adultery which just worsen your condition and battle.
The key to warfare is to fight the dark forces that are manipulating your spouse and pulling them out. One of the first steps in that warfare is to slam as many doors as you can to prevent more dark spirits from entering into the battle. You do not want Satan's army, that you are fighting, to grow in numbers, you want to defeat and decrease them. So, Gods word on submitting sexually is a key point to warfare, in your obedience and submitting sexually, you are closing the door on further spirits of adultery coming in. Right now, your spouse may be oppressed by them in that they are having trouble submerging those desires..they are toying with your spouse who is actually trying to do the right thing in coming to you instead of where they want your spouse to go, which is outward to someone else. They are normal human desires, but the dark forces will use them and even accentuate them to their purposes.
This is just a good example of how you really have to mind set yourself in the spirit and not the physical realm. As I teach all standers, your spouses are not the ones in control and operating in their behavior and the things that they are doing. The real person, the spouse that you knew prior to the attack on your marriage, is bound in chains and submerged beneath in her body and demonic spirits are using your spouse's body and mind to fulfill their desires of destruction, to your marriage, to you and to them.
Your spouse is not the one who has left you and filed for divorce, the dark forces operating within and outwardly through the spouse are the ones doing this and it is them that you are fighting, not the person. Once you grasp and understand this fact, then you can come to a place where what your spouse does and says no longer phases you, because it is not the spouse.
Standers get so upset when their spouses say things to them like that they do not love them, and other cruel things. The thing is, their spouses are not the one saying these things..yes, it may be their physical mouths and voice producing the words, but it is not their thoughts and it is not their projection of those thoughts coming out of them, it the demonic spirits using their bodies and mouths. Fact is, the spouses are going to vocalize these things because bottom line is, a demonic spirit does not love anyone, not you or anyone else, they do not even love your spouse that is being used, and on the flip-side you do not love that demonic spirit saying these things to you either. However, you do love your spouse that the demonic spirit is using, and you should love your spouse enough to want to set them free from the spirit manipulating them. That is your battle, to set your spouse free. To fight the spiritual forces holding your spouse so that your spouse can reemerge out from under them and after being set free, all the love and everything else between a husband and wife will come back, it will come out of that submergence where this is actually being held.
So you have to look at everything that the spouse does or says, and know who is really doing and saying it, and then look past the actions and words and find the spouse if applicable to the situation. In this case, finding your spouse is applicable because even though the dark spirits that are manipulating them are pushing their sexual desires in a crude manner, the spouse is still managing to hold some control of where they act them out...by turning to you for the fulfillment. This is actually a victory that you can step up and embrace, because if you submit, then the sexual spirits are not winning in getting your spouse to step outside the marriage with what they want. If you maintain that hold on them, on where they get their gratification sexually, then you are blocking them from going elsewhere and adding a dark force to their troops, the spirit of adultery.
Never be swayed by well meaning friends and family, because they do not know your battle spiritually and they operate and think in the physical realm, which is a place that you really cannot afford to be right now. You have to get into the spiritual realm of this battle, and they cannot go there with you. Some friends may do so, if they understand that this is spiritual and can think spiritually about it. Typically that person has been there themselves and can relate. That is why we emphasize to keep your situation only between yourself and like-minded persons, those who truly understand what you are dealing with and how to deal with it.
For every situation you come up against in this marriage battle, God has already given the answer. He did not leave us out here to guess what we are to do. It is all right there in His word which is a plan actually...a plan to live by, and a plan to battle by spiritually when facing opposition. If you stick to His plan, you cannot be defeated. Many standers that have faced this same situation and their spouses were officially in adultery, have worried if the spouse could give them some kind of sexual disease. Of course that is something to bring concern. But, whenever we follow the word of God and remain obedient to it, then we also have His protection. Disease, especially sexual diseases, are demonic spirits as well, they are of Satan. When we are walking with God and acting according to His word and His promises, obedient to Him, then no demonic spirits or inflictions can come upon us.
If your spouse is infected with a sexual disease, that is because he/she are in sin and afflicted by the demon spirits operating in their sin condition, but if you are walking with Christ and remaining true to His word, then that infliction cannot pass from them to you. And, for further reflection on 'if' that would be the case, that is Gods way of showing your spouse their sin and the result of that sin. Your spouse and the person they are committing adultery with would be inflicted with a disease and the stander, even though sexual with the infected spouse, remains free of that disease, is Gods way of showing Himself to the spouse and the outsider, showing that you are protected and under His grace while they were not..they are in sin and will suffer for such. This is just one of the ways that God would open a wayward spouses eyes to their sin actions and get them turned around. It would show them that to be right with God is to be protected and infliction free, and they hopefully would turn to Him on the spot in hopes of being healed in the doing so.
I always had this assurance in my spirit when I was in that situation with my own spouse. In fact I was very aware that God may just allow him and the adulteress to come down with a horrid sexual disease, a life threatening one, and that I would be standing there clear of such even though I in the physical realm had been exposed. I actually embraced that if it were to happen, because I knew that God would be opening my husbands eyes to truth and that would have been something that swung him around and back to God for sure, never to depart again. He would have seen the light from the dark, the light on my side and the dark on her side, and he would have shoved the dark from him and ran for the light with a hope of still being redeemed and saved from his plight.
Sexual diseases are demonic diseases inflicted from the dark side. God allows the person to be inflicted because of their sin. Truth is God really has nothing to do with it, as the person themselves are opening up the door to that infliction by committing their sin, inviting it to come in. If the stander is themselves walking with God, then there is no door open to bring infliction in by, even if exposed to someone else’s infliction, because we have His covering to block that. One of His commands is for us to submit to our spouses sexually because it is His plan by which we keep out the dark forces in our marriage and if those dark forces are already in the wayward spouses life and hence our marriage via their sinful actions, it is His plan then to drive them back out and shut the door again on those forces.
We as obedient children of God do not have to feel fear and hide from the dark forces by rejecting the word of God about submitting, feeling like we have to protect ourselves. God is our only protection and we stay under His wing of protection when we walk according to His plan and word. It is when we disobey His word and direction, that we step out from under His wing of protection and grace. We may feel like we took care of it for ourselves in protecting our bodies from sexual disease by not submitting, but the truth is in taking charge ourselves and going against His command, we just opened ourselves and our marriages up to another venue for the dark forces to come in and destroy. If you are not submitting how God commands, then you yourself are acting against His word, acting in rebellion with Him, and that leaves you open to the dark forces yourself.
I can also tell you that opening yourself up to your spouse sexually, is a step that God uses to bring you back together. I can testify to this.
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This is the end of Part one. It is continued below as a Reply to this Topic.
I realize that you are looking at this as she has wrong motives and that gives you unease with it. It does many standers, especially ones whose spouses are in known adultery with another and still returning to the standing spouse as well. I myself have been in that position. But, I too had to submit, because regardless of what anyone else thinks, including myself, I have to follow the commands of God.
There was also times when my spouse was out and was not engaging in adultery, and he was coming to me for this need for the same reasons your spouse is coming at you...it was not about love. In fact a couple of times he was out and doing this, he was fully demon possessed and it was hard for me because I felt like I was sleeping with the devil. I was not comfortable with it, but God spoke to me clearly that I needed to submit as His word states, as He was allowing this to keep further demons from coming in, demon spirits of adultery which just worsen your condition and battle.
The key to warfare is to fight the dark forces that are manipulating your spouse and pulling them out. One of the first steps in that warfare is to slam as many doors as you can to prevent more dark spirits from entering into the battle. You do not want Satan's army, that you are fighting, to grow in numbers, you want to defeat and decrease them. So, Gods word on submitting sexually is a key point to warfare, in your obedience and submitting sexually, you are closing the door on further spirits of adultery coming in. Right now, your spouse may be oppressed by them in that they are having trouble submerging those desires..they are toying with your spouse who is actually trying to do the right thing in coming to you instead of where they want your spouse to go, which is outward to someone else. They are normal human desires, but the dark forces will use them and even accentuate them to their purposes.
This is just a good example of how you really have to mind set yourself in the spirit and not the physical realm. As I teach all standers, your spouses are not the ones in control and operating in their behavior and the things that they are doing. The real person, the spouse that you knew prior to the attack on your marriage, is bound in chains and submerged beneath in her body and demonic spirits are using your spouse's body and mind to fulfill their desires of destruction, to your marriage, to you and to them.
Your spouse is not the one who has left you and filed for divorce, the dark forces operating within and outwardly through the spouse are the ones doing this and it is them that you are fighting, not the person. Once you grasp and understand this fact, then you can come to a place where what your spouse does and says no longer phases you, because it is not the spouse.
Standers get so upset when their spouses say things to them like that they do not love them, and other cruel things. The thing is, their spouses are not the one saying these things..yes, it may be their physical mouths and voice producing the words, but it is not their thoughts and it is not their projection of those thoughts coming out of them, it the demonic spirits using their bodies and mouths. Fact is, the spouses are going to vocalize these things because bottom line is, a demonic spirit does not love anyone, not you or anyone else, they do not even love your spouse that is being used, and on the flip-side you do not love that demonic spirit saying these things to you either. However, you do love your spouse that the demonic spirit is using, and you should love your spouse enough to want to set them free from the spirit manipulating them. That is your battle, to set your spouse free. To fight the spiritual forces holding your spouse so that your spouse can reemerge out from under them and after being set free, all the love and everything else between a husband and wife will come back, it will come out of that submergence where this is actually being held.
So you have to look at everything that the spouse does or says, and know who is really doing and saying it, and then look past the actions and words and find the spouse if applicable to the situation. In this case, finding your spouse is applicable because even though the dark spirits that are manipulating them are pushing their sexual desires in a crude manner, the spouse is still managing to hold some control of where they act them out...by turning to you for the fulfillment. This is actually a victory that you can step up and embrace, because if you submit, then the sexual spirits are not winning in getting your spouse to step outside the marriage with what they want. If you maintain that hold on them, on where they get their gratification sexually, then you are blocking them from going elsewhere and adding a dark force to their troops, the spirit of adultery.
Never be swayed by well meaning friends and family, because they do not know your battle spiritually and they operate and think in the physical realm, which is a place that you really cannot afford to be right now. You have to get into the spiritual realm of this battle, and they cannot go there with you. Some friends may do so, if they understand that this is spiritual and can think spiritually about it. Typically that person has been there themselves and can relate. That is why we emphasize to keep your situation only between yourself and like-minded persons, those who truly understand what you are dealing with and how to deal with it.
For every situation you come up against in this marriage battle, God has already given the answer. He did not leave us out here to guess what we are to do. It is all right there in His word which is a plan actually...a plan to live by, and a plan to battle by spiritually when facing opposition. If you stick to His plan, you cannot be defeated. Many standers that have faced this same situation and their spouses were officially in adultery, have worried if the spouse could give them some kind of sexual disease. Of course that is something to bring concern. But, whenever we follow the word of God and remain obedient to it, then we also have His protection. Disease, especially sexual diseases, are demonic spirits as well, they are of Satan. When we are walking with God and acting according to His word and His promises, obedient to Him, then no demonic spirits or inflictions can come upon us.
If your spouse is infected with a sexual disease, that is because he/she are in sin and afflicted by the demon spirits operating in their sin condition, but if you are walking with Christ and remaining true to His word, then that infliction cannot pass from them to you. And, for further reflection on 'if' that would be the case, that is Gods way of showing your spouse their sin and the result of that sin. Your spouse and the person they are committing adultery with would be inflicted with a disease and the stander, even though sexual with the infected spouse, remains free of that disease, is Gods way of showing Himself to the spouse and the outsider, showing that you are protected and under His grace while they were not..they are in sin and will suffer for such. This is just one of the ways that God would open a wayward spouses eyes to their sin actions and get them turned around. It would show them that to be right with God is to be protected and infliction free, and they hopefully would turn to Him on the spot in hopes of being healed in the doing so.
I always had this assurance in my spirit when I was in that situation with my own spouse. In fact I was very aware that God may just allow him and the adulteress to come down with a horrid sexual disease, a life threatening one, and that I would be standing there clear of such even though I in the physical realm had been exposed. I actually embraced that if it were to happen, because I knew that God would be opening my husbands eyes to truth and that would have been something that swung him around and back to God for sure, never to depart again. He would have seen the light from the dark, the light on my side and the dark on her side, and he would have shoved the dark from him and ran for the light with a hope of still being redeemed and saved from his plight.
Sexual diseases are demonic diseases inflicted from the dark side. God allows the person to be inflicted because of their sin. Truth is God really has nothing to do with it, as the person themselves are opening up the door to that infliction by committing their sin, inviting it to come in. If the stander is themselves walking with God, then there is no door open to bring infliction in by, even if exposed to someone else’s infliction, because we have His covering to block that. One of His commands is for us to submit to our spouses sexually because it is His plan by which we keep out the dark forces in our marriage and if those dark forces are already in the wayward spouses life and hence our marriage via their sinful actions, it is His plan then to drive them back out and shut the door again on those forces.
We as obedient children of God do not have to feel fear and hide from the dark forces by rejecting the word of God about submitting, feeling like we have to protect ourselves. God is our only protection and we stay under His wing of protection when we walk according to His plan and word. It is when we disobey His word and direction, that we step out from under His wing of protection and grace. We may feel like we took care of it for ourselves in protecting our bodies from sexual disease by not submitting, but the truth is in taking charge ourselves and going against His command, we just opened ourselves and our marriages up to another venue for the dark forces to come in and destroy. If you are not submitting how God commands, then you yourself are acting against His word, acting in rebellion with Him, and that leaves you open to the dark forces yourself.
I can also tell you that opening yourself up to your spouse sexually, is a step that God uses to bring you back together. I can testify to this.
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This is the end of Part one. It is continued below as a Reply to this Topic.
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