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what good reason do we have for saying no?

A good reason: We as Christians should be examples of Christ/God. Since God says no then we must also say no because we have to represent God truthfully and helping everyone who asks help does not do that. It's for beggar's best interest - to keep him from thinking that he matters to God. It's for purpose of letting others know truth about God.

The 10 Commandments were for us, not God.

So it means God doesn't have to do to others as He would like others to do to him? And God doesn't have to keep any of those.

And we are no longer bound by the 10 Commandments anyway.

So can I have sex with my girlfriend before getting married then? It would violate the commandment that disallowed adultery but if it's done out of love for her it would not conflict with those two commandments. Also, according to this, is it fine if I watch porn and masturbate while I don't have a girlfriend yet? I can still love God while doing that and loving my neighbor would be out of question because I would be doing it alone and thus not hurting anyone.

I already told you why God allows suffering.

Because then He can watch us suffering. And since as you just said the 10 Commandments are not for Him, He can legally do so.

How has He abused His power?

Because since He is all-powerful He does not need to keep the 10 Commandments Himself. He could torture us if He wanted to and no one would do anything.

Most of our suffering isn't God's doing,

But He also isn't doing anything to reduce it despite the fact that some have been suffering for years, because He does not have enough compassion - if He had, I would not be complaining in this thread. So I have proved my statement. So God wanted to look like a good guy, but He also wanted suffering so He came up with a brilliant idea, He created Satan to rebel against Him and to become the bad guy so that He can leave everything to him. It's very clever, now everyone thinks that Satan is the cause of suffering, and no one blames God. But no one manages to understand that God actually created Satan so that He could wash His hands clean, but still have the job of suffering done.

As such, since God is love, should we not reflect His love to others?

Yes, we should. And it's very easy - I have received nothing, therefore I also have nothing to reflect.

How is it God's fault that you find the Bible boring?

Yes, if it contains lies and false promises and reading those doesn't give anything but more disappointment.

My friend, if you don't do your part, God will not do His part.

I am not going to do anything at all on my part before I am convinced by God by His deeds (and not just words) that there is a point in having faith/believing/obeying.

Let me explain. If you ask God for a job, but don't bother to look for a job, how can God give you a job?

A job is easy - I send a CV, I get to know if they accepted or rejected me. But what can I do if I am not convinced that Jesus cares for me and if reading and hearing the Bible doesn't convince me either? I don't have so much difficulty with believing that God exists but rather that He cares/loves me. And this only His deeds can convince me. Christians and the Bible can tell me that God loves me and cares for me but as long as God has not shown it in deeds I will not believe it and that's all. And as long as I am not convinced that He cares about me I will not obey Him. So it's really up to Him. I or you can't do anything about it.

But have you ever said, "Not my will, but Thine be done?"

I did that a lot when I still was still a Christian. But haven't done in the last 6-8 months or so.

Do you know what I find interesting? You have enough faith to believe in the Devil, but you say you have no faith in God.

Yes, as I already mentioned before in this post. I don't have difficulties with believing He exists but rather that He cares for me. And why should I joyfully serve someone who doesn't even care about me? And about Lord and Father Lucifer, the Almighty God of this world, to whom I sold my soul: I just want to learn to know more about Him and His demons and about black magic. I believe that He has the power to help me and to give Him motivation to help me I promised Him my soul if He helps me out so in a few coming months I'll see. And even if He doesn't answer me I will still stay with Him, because now I live in a dormitory where I can't really perform satanic rituals which require candles and blood, but I will be moving to my own apartment soon where no one is disturbing me and I can truly dedicate my life to Satan.

Once again, is it easy to trust when you do not comprehend the reasons? No

Then He shouldn't expect me to trust Him and either find someone else or prove to me that He is worth putting my trust in Him. And He should do it with deeds and not with words of the Bible or other Christians.

The Bible says that it is better to believe without seeing, then to believe having seen. God wants us to have faith in Him and in His promises.

Even if Jesus would appear to me I would refuse to obey Him before He has convinced me that He has planned to do anything about my current situation.

It is better to have never known the love of God then to have known the love of God and rejected it.

But why? Because if you have known the love and still reject it, your sufferings will be worse in Hell.

But if you truly and sincerely do not want it, God will not force it on you. If you, of your own free will, truly reject God in your heart and mind, then yes, I suppose it is possible that you can lose your salvation.

It should be possible. Because God created free will. And if I am not able to go to hell just because I made the decision to accept Jesus about 4 years ago, it's not free will anymore. My will is not to be in the same place with God who does not care about my sufferings, and if I am still made to go to heaven then it's violating my free will. But even if I would go to heaven it wouldn't be that bad. I could do there to Jesus everything that was done to him when he was nailed to the cross. I would spit in His face. And shout with a loud voice that "Look, here comes the God who didn't care about me." And every time they make me sing a worship song I would sing that song to the Devil instead of to show them that God is no authority in my eyes. I would pee on His throne. I would punch God on His face and kick Him off His throne and show my middle finger to Him when He starts to rebuke me. I would pour petrol on His throne and set it on fire so that it wouldn't be as white as the Bible described it to be.

I believe that even in hell a person can repent and be granted forgiveness and salvation.

So I can come out of hell if I want and still get to heaven? Can Satan do that also?

What do you think of these:

Obadiah 1:16 It will be as if the evil “had never been.”

Psalm 92:7 “… shall be destroyed forever.”

Matthew 25:46 And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life.

2 Thessalonians 1:9 They will suffer the punishment of eternal destruction, away from the presence of the Lord and from the glory of His might,

Jude 1:7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.

Matthew 25:41 Then He will say to those on His left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Revelation 14:11, "And the smoke of their torment ascends up forever and ever."

The reason that they don't do this is because of greed and a general lack of willingness to share with those in need.

But it would raise the question: why would kids in Africa get food for free while we have to pay for it? Giving it to them for free while we have to pay is not fair. From the other hand, you'd have to give them for free because they won't be able to afford it.

But what the West has in excess, do you not think that we should share what we don't need?

No, because then they would get for free something for which I have to work and pay for. Those in Africa wouldn't work for food anyway. They don't do anything on their part. They don't work to earn that food. They just want us to donate that food. Just look at those refugees in Europe. They get around €1000 from the government monthly and they don't even intend to go to work. But when the internet is not fast enough or the area they are located at does not have enough women, they are quick to complain.

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[Newbie]

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A good reason: We as Christians should be examples of Christ/God. Since God says no then we must also say no because we have to represent God truthfully and helping everyone who asks help does not do that. It's for beggar's best interest - to keep him from thinking that he matters to God. It's for purpose of letting others know truth about God.

I already answered this. When God says no, it's not because He is being vindictive or sadistic, it is because He knows that what we are asking for isn't in our best interests, or it would be better later on, or He has something better in store for us. He doesn't say no to punish us, He says no because He has our best interests at heart.

So it means God doesn't have to do to others as He would like others to do to Him? And God doesn't have to keep any of those.

God is God. He is not bound by anything, least of all us. Now, God has chosen to bind Himself to His word, to His promises. God is all-powerful and has only to desire something and it is done. But God has chosen to be bound by His word. His word is His law. He is bound by His promises.

So can I have sex with my girlfriend before getting married then? It would violate the commandment that disallowed adultery but if it's done out of love for her it would not conflict with those two commandments. Also, according to this, is it fine if I watch porn and masturbate while I don't have a girlfriend yet? I can still love God while doing that and loving my neighbor would be out of question because I would be doing it alone and thus not hurting anyone.

Ok, first, being intimate outside of marriage is not adultery unless one of you is already married or one of you is already in a relationship with someone else.

Is sex outside of marriage a sin? It depends. If you ask most Christians, they would say yes. In my opinion, however, it really depends on the situation. If two people love each other, are living together, but cannot get married or do not believe in marriage as an institution, is it a sin? In my opinion, not really. They are married in all but name. I know many couples who are Christian but not married. Are they living in sin? No, I don't think so. These people, while not married, have made a commitment to each other to live the rest of their lives together. Yes, they don't have a piece of paper formalizing their commitment, but I think what matters is what is in their hearts, not what some piece of paper says. This is my opinion, and as I said before, many Christians will disagree with me. However, if you believe it to be sin, and you do it anyway, that is sin. Because you did what you believed to be sin, and you did it willingly, that is sin.

Is porn a sin? Yes. But you don't need to be a Christian to know that. Ask any psychiatrist and they will tell you that it is unhealthy mentally to watch porn. Yes, you are not harming anyone, but you are harming yourself, and it is a sin to harm yourself. Why? Our bodies are God's temple, as Christians, our bodies belong to God. They are in essence, God's property. So if you harm yourself by doing things that you know will have a bad effect on you, you are damaging God's property. And that, my friend, is sin.

Because then He can watch us suffering. and since as you just said 10 commandments are not for Him, He can legally do so.

I already answered this. God is neither vindictive nor a sadist. Yes, He can do what He wants, but He has chosen to be bound by His word. He has chosen to never break His promises. God is love, my friend, He loves us so much that He sent His Son to die for our sins. Does that sound sadistic to you? God loves us so much that He has pardoned all our sins and shortcomings. Does that sound vindictive to you? God loves us, my friend.

Because then He can watch us suffering. and since as you just said 10 commandments are not for Him, He can legally do so.

First, the law was created by God, not for God. That being said, as I said above, God has chosen to be bound by His word.

Because since He is all powerful He does not need to keep 10 commandments Himself. He could torture us if He wanted to and no one would do anything.

Yes, I suppose He could. But God will not because He loves us. You seem to be continually confusing will with can. Just because God can do something does not mean He will do it. God can do anything, He is all-powerful, but He will not do certain things. He will not break His word. He will not mistreat us, because as I said above, God loves us. He will not lie, because God hates lies. He will not mislead us, because He loves us. He will only do what is best for us, even if at times it doesn't seem that way.

But He also isn't doing anything to reduce it despite the fact that some have been suffering for years, because He does not have enough compassion - if He had, I would not be complaining in this thread. So I have proved my statement. So God wanted to look like a good guy, but He also wanted suffering so He came up with a brilliant idea, He created Satan to rebel against Him and to become the bad guy so that He can leave everything to him. It's very clever, now everyone thinks that Satan is the cause of suffering, and no one blames God. But no one manages to understand that God actually created Satan so that He could wash His hands clean, but still have the job of suffering done.

God has no compassion? My friend, God sent His only Son into the world, not to condemn the world, but to save the world. God sees our tears and our suffering, and has promised that one day our tears and suffering will be no more. He has promised that He will wipe all tears from our eyes. He has promised that He is preparing a place in heaven for us. God has promised that it is not His will that any should perish. God gave us free will, so that we can choose between good and evil. He gave us the ability to think and reason. Most of our suffering, as I said before, is not God's fault, but our fault. If God were to step in every time we made a mistake, and chose wrong from right, how would that translate into free will? And if God always corrected our mistakes, how would we learn from our mistakes?

As for Satan, he was an arch-angel. His fall was his doing, not God's. Angels have free will too, my friend. His sin was pride, in that He saw himself as equal or greater than God. He was cast out of heaven because of his pride in wanting to be God. That was his choice, not God's. He chose to rebel, nobody made that choice but him. His fellow angels followed him out of their free will, and were cast out. You see the pattern? We have free will to choose, but we must take into account the consequences of our choices. For every choice, both good and evil, there is a cause and effect reaction. God created Satan, yes, but God didn't make him rebel. Satan chose to do that out of his own free will.

And it is mistaken to think that Satan is the cause of all our suffering. Sure, a good part of it is his doing, but a good part of it is our doing. As I said before, Satan cannot make you do anything against your will. He does not have that power. God will not force you to do anything you are unwilling to do, and Satan cannot. God will try to persuade us to do good and Satan will try to persuade us to do evil. But the choice to do either good or evil is yours, and yours alone.

Yes, we should. And it's very easy - I have received nothing, therefore I also have nothing to reflect.

God gave you nothing? We have already discussed this. God has given you life, free will, and talents. And God is willing, if you ask Him, to give you forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life. All you need do is ask. Just because God has given them to everyone does not make them less valuable or less special of a gift. Let me ask you a question, if you were given 10 million dollars, are they worth less just because everyone in your city received the same gift? Of course not. The same is with the gifts of God. They are for everyone who wants them, and they are priceless. God has given us forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life for free, because we could never pay the price. Not one of us is perfect, not one of us deserves heaven. Not the best of us, not the worst of us. We are all sinners, who come short of His divine glory.

Yes, if it contains lies and false promises and reading those doesn't give anything but more disappointment.

That depends on your perspective. What you call lies, I call truth. What you call delusions and illusions, I call my faith.

I am not going to do anything at all on my part before I am convinced by God by His deeds (and not just words) that there is a point in having faith/believing/obeying.

I am sorry you believe that, but I am convinced of the exact opposite. I know that if I do what I can, God will do the rest.

Job is easy - I send a CV, I get to know if they accepted or rejected me. But what can I do if I am not convinced that Jesus cares for me and if reading and hearing the Bible doesn't convince me either? I don't have so much difficulty with believing that God exists but rather that He cares/loves me. And this only His deeds can convince me. Christians and the Bible can tell me that God loves me and cares for me but as long as God has not shown it in deeds I will not believe it and that's all. And as long as I am not convinced that He cares about me I will not obey Him. So it's really up to Him. I or you can't do anything about it.

You missed my point. It was an example of how if you ask God for a job, but don't bother to send CV's or look for a job, God will not give you a job. God does what you cannot, not what you can. We do the possible, God will do the impossible. That being said, you said that you will only obey God if He proves Himself to you through deeds. My friend, ask God to prove Himself to you. Pray without ceasing, get desperate with God. Pray for forgiveness and pray that He shows Himself, in one way or another, to you. Pray, claim His promises, ask of God.

I did that a lot when I still was still a Christian. But haven't done in the last 6-8 months or so.

You seem to have misunderstood what you were praying for then. You were praying for God's will to be done. If you were praying for a car, and it is against God's will or not the right time, God will say no. You have made your petition, you have sent God your request, now it is for Him to decide what to do. It is for Him to decide what is best for you. You have left the matter in the Hands of God, and He will answer you according to His will. That is what is meant by surrendering your will to God.

I believe that He has the power to help me and to give Him motivation to help me I promised Him my soul if He helps me out so in a few coming months.

Satan has power, but I highly doubt that the Devil has any intention of helping people. He is the Father of Lies, the Deceiver. If you think that you can play with witchcraft and Satanism and come out on top, think again. We cannot win against Satan on our own, none of us can. Alone, we are helpless against his power. It is only with God's help that we can win. You think that the Father of Lies is telling you the truth?

Then He shouldn't expect me to trust Him and either find someone else or prove to me that He is worth putting my trust in Him. And He should do it with deeds and not with words of the Bible or other Christians.

Once again you fail to understand what it truly means to have faith. You know your Bible, but you fail to comprehend its meaning. Having faith is not always easy, nobody said it would be. We believe because we have faith in the existence and the love of God. Faith defies logic. Faith defies reason. Is it logical to believe in what you cannot see, touch, or hear? No, but that is the very definition of faith. Is it logical to believe in God? No, but we believe because we have seen His creation, His handiwork. You say you have never seen God act. My friend, the rainbow is a sign of God's love. It is His promise to us, His creation, that He will never again destroy the world by a flood. The sunset and sunrise are two unique works of art, a sign of His unending love for us. The human body, designed to perfection. The universe, vast beyond our imagination or comprehension. It is not always easy to understand or comprehend the will of God, but that is when we must have faith and trust that He knows what He is doing and that He is in control. The life of a Christian is hard and difficult, and many trials, tests, and sacrifices will come our way. But it is also a rewarding and fulfilling life. The life of a Christian is a life dedicated to God and to helping in whatever way we can our fellow man. It is not easy, and many people are unwilling to dedicate their lives to helping others. But there is a joy that comes from helping others, a sense of fulfillment when the day ends, knowing that you have helped someone that day. I cannot describe it adequately the joy that comes from giving and helping those in need. There is also a joy in knowing that God loves us. We have peace in our hearts, because we know that no matter what happens, no matter what misfortunes come our way, God is in control. Our Father in heaven is in control, and He will not abandon His children, He will never forsake us, He will never leave us, He will never let us suffer more than we can endure, He will never break His word. God is our Father, our King, our God, our Salvation. Jesus our Saviour and Messiah died for us on the cross, He demonstrated His love for us, He died so that we might live. To me, His love is beyond question, His salvation a free gift to all.

So I can come out of hell if I want and still get to heaven? Can Satan do that also?

If Satan were to truly repent and seek the forgiveness and love of God, then yes, I truly believe that God would forgive him. But I don't think that is likely to happen any time soon. God is love, no limits and no conditions. As I said before, nobody goes to hell blindfolded.

Psalms 92:7 - I believe that it means that they will go to hell. As I said before, this is my belief and interpretation, and many Christians disagree with me on this.

Matthew 25:46 Hell is eternal, unless you repent and seek the forgiveness and love of Christ

Some Christians believe that once you reject Christ, there are no second chances. But I believe in the unending love and mercy of God. In the end, we will never know until the next life. This is one of those questions where all I can say is "My opinion is", but the fact of the matter will only be revealed to us in the next life.

But it would raise the question: why would kids in Africa get food for free while we have to pay for it? Giving it to them for free while we have to pay is not fair. From the other hand, you'd have to give it to them for free because they won't be able to afford it.

Not fair has nothing to do with it. As Christians, it is our duty and our privilege to help others. You could say the same thing about a beggar on the street, "it is unfair". You help that beggar because you have compassion for him, and because as Christians it should be an automatic reflex to help others, not a debate of the pros and cons.

I am praying for you and your salvation, my friend. GBY!

 

[Anonymous]

Is porn a sin? Yes. But you don't need to be a Christian to know that. Ask any psychiatrist and they will tell you that it is unhealthy mentally to watch porn. Yes, you are not harming anyone, but you are harming yourself, and it is a sin to harm yourself. Why? Our bodies are God's temple, as Christians, our bodies belong to God. They are in essence, God's property. So if you harm yourself by doing things that you know will have a bad effect on you, you are damaging God's property. And that, my friend, is sin.

So if it wasn't mentally harmful it would be not sin?

As for having sex with gf before marriage 1 Cor 7:2 says But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband (src: What does the Bible say about sex before marriage? | GotQuestions.org).

So maybe it's not just people who would disagree with you but Bible also.

He has chosen to never break His promises.

But He has already broken them all in my life. Basically all the promises in Bible are broken for me. How can I still believe the Bible if promises given there don't hold in my life?

I already answered this. God is neither vindictive nor a sadist. Yes, He can do what He wants, but He has chosen to be bound by His word. He has chosen to never break His promises. God is love, my friend, He loves us so much that He sent His Son to die for our sins. Does that sound sadistic to you? God loves us so much that He has pardoned all our sins and shortcomings. Does that sound vindictive to you? God loves us, my friend.

But His love is like: "Love me or burn in hell for entire eternity"

He will not break His word. He will not mistreat us, because as I said above, God loves us.

But His word also says somewhere that He hears our prayers and answers us. It is broken by not doing anything. If His answer is no, He could at least send some angel or prophet to tell me that it's no so that I would waste my time on that prayer anymore. But instead He sends me Christians to prophesy that God has a great plan and great blessings in store for me. This is intentional lying to make me feel bad. Waiting for an unknown time is destructive for humans (ask a psychologist, they can probably dig up some scientific article to prove that), he makes me feel that I am not important. By blessing others with the very thing I have asked for years, He shows that others are more important for Him. I find that to be mistreating.

God sees our tears and our suffering

Sits back on the throne, relaxes and says "This is what I have always wanted to see... Hey Satan, can you send more sufferings there? I want to see more of it, but I have chosen not to cause sufferings myself so that people would think well of me"

God created Satan, yes, but God didn't make him rebel.

But the Bible doesn't explain where those thoughts came from. Maybe God sent him the thoughts that he could then demonstrate His powers on Satan.

God gave you nothing? We have already discussed this. God has given you life,

If only I could give that life to someone else or return it back to God....

God gave you nothing? We have already discussed this. God has given you life, free will, and talents. And God is willing, if you ask Him, to give you forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life. All you need to do is ask. Just because God has given them to everyone does not make them less valuable or less special of a gift. Let me ask you a question, if you were given 10 million dollars, are they worth less just because everyone in your city received the same gift? Of course not. The same is with the gifts of God. They are for everyone who wants them, and they are priceless. God has given us forgiveness, salvation, and eternal life for free, because we could never pay the price. Not one of us is perfect, not one of us deserves heaven. Not the best of us, not the worst of us. We are all sinners, who come short of His divine glory.

These gifts will not make me happy till God doesn't treat me in a humane way. And by giving I meant blessings that are received as answers to prayers. I don't value the things you listed here as something that was given to me.

That depends on your perspective. What you call lies, I call truth.

Ok, promise to answer prayers and hear us may be truth for you but not for me. I haven't received any of the promises in the Bible.

You missed my point. It was an example of how if you ask God for a job, but don't bother to send CVs or look for a job, God will not give you a job. God does what you cannot, not what you can. We do the possible, God will do the impossible. That being said, you said that you will only obey God if He proves Himself to you through deeds. My friend, ask God to prove Himself to you. Pray without ceasing, get desperate with God. Pray for forgiveness and pray that He shows Himself, in one way or another, to you. Pray, claim His promises, ask of God.

With my prayer requests I have done my part and waited for God to do His part. Nothing ever happened. And I have said already that I have already done tons of prayer. And when I was still a Christian I even did it with faith and stuff.

Satan has power, but I highly doubt that the Devil has any intention of helping people.

He will if you respect him. And here's the deal. You ask him for help and you allow him to use your body in return. His motivation to help could also be that if I get my prayer answers from him there would be no need for me to go back to God, and thus end up in hell, which is his goal. But we can do perfect teamwork, because I already want myself to go to hell because I don't want to be in the same place with God. And if Satan would answer my prayers I wouldn't have need to go back to God.

Once again you fail to understand what it truly means to have faith. [...]

But I don't have that conviction in my heart and reading the Bible wouldn't give me this either.

Some Christians believe that once you reject Christ, there are no second chances. But I believe in the unending love and mercy of God. In the end, we will never know until the next life. This is one of those questions where all I can say is "My opinion is", but the fact of the matter will only be revealed to us in the next life.

You don't need your opinion, you need the Bible's opinion. If you reject Christ on earth, you can repent, if you reject Christ to the end you won't be able to repent in hell. Otherwise, it would be said so in the Bible. Think of the word eternity.

 

[Matthew01]

Hoping you find your way, my friend!

 

[Newbie]

So if it wasn't mentally harmful it would be not sin?

No, it would still be sin. I was simply explaining one of the reasons as to why it is sin.

As for having sex with gf before marriage 1 cor 7:2 says But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband (src: What does the Bible say about sex before marriage? | GotQuestions.org).
So maybe it's not just people who would disagree with you but Bible also.

What I said is, "If two people love each other, are living together, but cannot get married or do not believe in marriage as an institution, is it a sin?" What is marriage anyway? Is it a piece of paper formalizing your love or is it the union of two people who love each other and want to spend the rest of their lives together? Is your love and commitment to each other any less real or long lasting without a piece of paper? If someone is married, but doesn't love his wife, is he more or less married than someone who is not married but has made a commitment to love and live with his partner? What matters is the heart, my friend, not a piece of paper. If two people love each other and have made a commitment to love and live with each other, they are married in all but name. Yes, they don't have a piece of paper formalizing their commitment, but I think what matters is what is in their hearts, not what some piece of paper says. This does not contradict 1 cor 7:2, because God is love, and His first law is love, and these people are married, in their hearts, and that, my friend, is what really matters. "Man looks at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart." (1 Samuel 16:7) I think God cares more about what is in their hearts than what some piece of paper says. You need to obey not just the letter of the law, but also the spirit of the law.

But He has already broken them all in my life. Basically all the promises in Bible are broken for me. How can I still believe the bible if promises given there dont hold in my life?

God does not break His word. You say God has broken His promises to you. Which promises? That God answered your prayers with a no or a later does not mean He has broken His word. As to why God has answered your prayers how He did, I do not know. I am not God, and only God knows the answer to that question. All I can tell you is that you must have faith and trust, trust that God knows what He is doing. You must have faith, faith to believe that God knows what He is doing, and that God only has your best interests at heart.

But His love is like: "Love me or burn in hell for entire eternity"

We are sinners, born in sin, deserving of damnation. God has offered us a way out, a road to salvation. Now, we can choose between salvation or damnation. You can cry unfair, you can say that God should have offered us more choices. But the reality is this, we are offered two choices, either we accept the love of God and His divine redemption, or we continue on our own way, heading straight to damnation.

But his word also says somewhere that he hears our prayers and answers us. It is broken by not doing anything. If His answer is no He could at least send some angel or prophet to tell me that it's no so that I would waste my time on that prayer anymore.

He does hear and answer our prayers. His word is not broken if He does nothing. He has answered you, the answer is no.

But instead He sends me Christians to prophesy that God has great plan and great blessings in store for me. This is intentional lying to make me feel bad. Waiting for unknown time is destructive for human (ask psychologist, they can probably dig u some scientific article to prove that), he makes me feel that I am not important. By blessing others with the very thing I have asked for years He shows that others are more important for Him. I find that to be mistreating.

God has a plan for your life, He has a purpose for you. Whether you choose to follow God's plan or your own is entirely your choice. Nowhere in the Bible has God set a time limit on how fast our prayers are answered. Sometimes it will be almost instantly, sometimes a few days or weeks, and there will be times when you won't see God's answer to your prayer till some years have passed, because it was not the right time. You can call this damaging psychologically, but God will not grant your request if it is against His will or if it is not the right time. God decides how and when to answer our prayers, not us. Prayer is requesting, petitioning the Almighty. When you pray, He has heard and seen your petition. But He alone decides how and when to answer. You say that by granting to others what you have asked for He shows you that they are of greater importance to Him. Nothing could be further from the truth. He grants those people their requests because it is in accordance to His will. Perhaps it is not yet time for you to receive what you are asking for, perhaps it is not in accordance with God's will for you to receive what you are asking for. I am just theorizing here because, as I said before, this is a question only God can answer. Only God knows why He has answered your requests the way He has. This is when you must have faith and trust in God. When things get tough, we must have faith, not doubt. When all seems lost, we must trust in Him. When it seems like there is no hope left, trust in God. Remember, true faith says. "Though He slay me, yet will I trust in Him."

But the Bible doesn't explain where those thoughts came from. Maybe God sent him the thoughts that he could then demonstrate His powers on Satan.

I already told you. God granted the angels free will, not just mankind. God gave Satan so much power that he was called "son of the morning". (Isaiah 14:12) It was all this power and glory that went to his head and he convinced himself that he should be God. Satan didn't have to rebel against God, he didn't have to disobey Him. Satan chose to reject God, Satan chose to rebel. In his pride and arrogance he truly believed himself to be God. In his pride and arrogance he forgot that all his power and glory come from God. He forgot that the source of his power was God, not himself. He forgot that without God we are nothing.

With my prayer requests I have done my part and waited for God to do His part. Nothing ever happened. And I have said already that I have already done tons of prayer. and when I was still Christian I even did it with faith and stuff.

If you have prayed, and God doesn't answer yes, you must have faith and trust that God knows what is best. If you have no faith, I already told you God's formula for faith. Read, study, and understand God's word, and your faith will grow. If you read God's word as if it were a chore that you are glad to be rid of, of course you won't have faith. You need to want to read God's word, not just because someone told you that you have to, but because you want to. If you have no wish nor desire for God's word, then how can God give you faith in His word? You say God should give you faith. My friend, we need to trust in God, even when it seems impossible. God will give you faith if you want it, but if you have no wish to have faith, if you have no need or desire to read His word, then your request is half-hearted. You ask, but you receive not, because you ask amiss. You are asking God for faith, but refuse to do what is required to have faith.

You don't need your opinion, you need Bible's opinion. If you reject Christ on earth, you can repent, if you reject Christ to the end you won't be able to repent in hell. Otherwise it would be said so in Bible. Think of word eternity.

The Bible is unclear on this matter, and that is why this question is open for debate. On the one hand Matthew 25:46 says "And these will go away into eternal punishment". On the other hand 2 Peter 3:9 says "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." My opinion is that hell is eternal unless we repent. I am convinced that if we repent, God is able and willing to save us from damnation. He wants us all to repent. He has no wish to see us sent to our damnation, and is willing and able to save us. All we need do is acknowledge our sins and accept that Jesus is the only way to heaven. God is love, He sent His Son into the world to save the world, not to condemn us. He wants to save us. He wants to forgive us. He wants to show us mercy.

I am praying for you, my friend. GBY!

 

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God does not break His word. You say God has broken His promises to you. Which promises? That God answered your prayers with a no or a later does not mean He has broken His word. As to why God has answered your prayers how He did, I do not know. I am not God, and only God knows the answer to that question. All I can tell you is that you must have faith and trust, trust that God knows what He is doing. You must have faith, faith to believe that God knows what He is doing, and that God only has your best interests at heart.

But still letting me burn in pain is not nice either. He may have freedom to answer no or later. I agree, but it's not nice to let someone burn in pain. It's not loving. If He wanted to love me He could have sent some angels or prophets to tell me the number of years I need to wait. Then I would not have to burn every day. But the way God solved my issue right now is not loving.

All I can tell you is that you must have faith and trust, trust that God knows what He is doing.

And no having faith or losing faith would mean that He cancels planned blessings? That is not loving either. First He promises me something He clearly knows I do not have enough faith to wait, and then He comes up saying that because of my lack of faith He was not able to give me the blessing that He had promised. If He knows that I fail to keep faith (no matter if it is my fault or not) He shouldn't give me promises that in the end I would receive anyway because of lack of my faith. It's teasing not love.

God has a plan for your life, He has a purpose for you.

And that is to suffer for an entire life, and then go to hell and continue to suffer there because in my disappointment I did not have the strength to accept Jesus back into my life.

He grants those people their requests because it is in accordance to His will.

But I am not according to His will. But others are. I am of no importance. I wish I would summon demons who would successfully kill me. I am not happy with my life. I want to die. And it's because of God.

When things get tough, we must have faith, not doubt.

Well, to me probably He would say something like because of my doubt and disbelief I didn't get anything. So what's the point of living, if I am not able to come out of this disappointment/depression anyway. If because of that none of my prayers will never ever be answered (Bible even says that those who doubt should not expect anything). That means that my life would be full of unanswered prayers till the end. Then what's the point of living and dealing with the worries of this world at all. I could just jump from a balcony or shoot myself and God would not even miss me. It would be easier for all of us, for me, that I do not have to hope on God who doesn't care anyway, God, because He would have to hear me complaining and for you because you wouldn't have to argue with me.

You need to want to read God's word, not just because someone told you that you have to, but because you want to. If you have no wish nor desire for God's word, then how can God give you faith in His word?

And if I don't want it then there is nothing that can be done.

My opinion is that hell is eternal unless we repent. I am convinced that if we repent, God is able and willing to save us from damnation.

But if those who are in hell could repent, they would repent because they do not want to burn in flames, and not because they really cared about God. So hell is eternal.

 

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[Anonymous]

I'm sorry to hear that you're feeling this way. It's important to seek support from professionals who can provide the help you need. If you're struggling with mental health issues, reaching out to a mental health professional or a support group can be very beneficial. Remember, it's okay to ask for help, and there are people who care and want to support you.

 

[Anonymous]

You are mentally ill and you need help, if you hate God so much then WHY are you on a prayer site?

To show others the truth that God is not so loving as he told himself to be. You are blinded by your good hopes that you can't see the truth about God. I am here to open the eyes of people to reality.

PS I disagree with you: Not agreeing with your religious views is not the same as mentally ill.

 

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But still letting me burn in pain is not nice either. He may have freedom to answer no or later. I agree, but it's not nice to let someone burn in pain. It's not loving. If he wanted to love me he could have sent some angels or prophets to tell me number of years I need to wait. Then I wouldnt have to burn every day. But the way God solved my issue right now is not loving.

I already said, I cannot answer that question. Only God can answer your question. As I said in the beginning, I cannot answer all your questions, I do not have all the answers. But there is someone who does have the answers, there is someone who can answer all your questions. And His name is Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

"For My thoughts are not your thoughts, Nor are your ways My ways," says the Lord. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, So are My ways higher than your ways, And My thoughts than your thoughts." (Isaiah 55:8-9) He is divine, we are mere mortals. God works in mysterious ways, and His will is not always easy to comprehend. As Christians it isn't necessary that we always comprehend the will of God, only that we obey the will of God. You will find that as you obey and follow the will of God, you will also begin to comprehend the will of God.

And no having faith or loosing faith would mean that He cancels planned blessings? That is not loving either. First He promises me something He clearly knows I don't have enough faith to wait, and then He comes up saying that because of my lack of faith He wasn't able to give me the blessing that He had promised. If he knows that I fail to keep faith (no matter if it is my fault or not) He shouldn't give me promises that in the end I would receive anyway because of lack of my faith. It's teasing not love.

To a point, yes. If you ask God for a car, but have no faith that He will do it, how can you expect God to answer your prayer? Just as you must ask to receive, you must also have faith when you pray. Prayer without faith is just hot air, worthless. Just like faith without actions is dead, prayer without faith is dead also. In order to receive, you need to believe. The Bible is very clear on that. "But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord." (James 1:6-7)

And that is to suffer for entire life, and then go to hell and continue to suffer there because in my disappointment I did not have strength to accept Jesus back to my life.

That is NOT God's will for your life, and I think you know it. I already said this, God is love and is willing and able to save and forgive you, all you need do is ask. It is not God's will that any should perish. What is God's will for your life? Again, I cannot answer this question, only God knows His plan for your life. So you have a choice, either follow God or go your own way. There are no other options

But I am not according to his will. But others are. I am of no importance. I wish I would summon demons who would successfully kill me. I am not happy with my life. I want to die. And it's because of God.

First, as I mentioned before, I was only theorising. Second, you are important. Each of us is a unique creation, no two of us are alike. And God has a unique plan for each of us. We may not always understand or comprehend the plan that God has for our lives, but that is when we must have faith. In the end, that is what it comes to. Faith and trust in God. Either you have faith, or you don't. Either you trust God, or you don't. Either you believe in God, or you don't. Either you surrender your will to God, or you don't. In the end, it really is that simple. We must have faith, not doubt. We must trust, not second guess God.

Well, to me probably He would say something like because of my doubt and disbelief I didn't get anything. So what's the point of living, if I am not able to come out of this disappointment/depression anyway. If because of that none of my prayers will never ever answer (Bible even says that those who doubt should not expect anything). That means that my life would be full of unanswered prayers till end. Then what's the point of living and dealing with the worries of this world at all. I could just jump from balcony or shoot myself and God wouldnt even miss me. It would be easier for all of us, for me, that I don't have to hope on God who doesn't care anyway, God, because he would have to hear me complaining and for you cuz you wouldn't have to argue with me.

The point is that you are able to overcome your depression. Yes, I know that it will not be easy. It is a hard road fighting and overcoming depression, a road filled with difficulty and setbacks. But with God's help you can overcome depression. As for doubting, my friend, you are human, mortal. We all have, at one time or another, doubted. We have the choice then to either overcome our doubts, casting all our worries, doubts, concerns, and troubles on God. Or we can continue on in our doubts and worries, never trusting, always questioning and second guessing God. The important thing to remember is this, you are special and precious to God. You are unique and important, you are His child, and He loves you.

But if those who are in hell could repent, they would repent because they don't want to burn in flames, and not because they really cared about God. So hell is eternal.

In my opinion they can repent. But their repentance must be sincere, not just because they want out of hell. You cannot fool God, my friend. But once again, this is my opinion, and the Bible remains somewhat unclear on this subject.

I am praying for you, my friend.